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Susan Troy's avatar

Some days I simply cannot believe we’ve gotten ourselves into such a mess. I also now understand where a friend of mine got the sex change nonsense. Your beautiful photos make me smile 🙏

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Peggy Datz's avatar

I seem to remember a post some weeks ago by someone who had made or found a digest of Project 2025 that could be used for posters or posting, but I couldn't find it. Could anyone direct me to such an item? Hopeful thanks in advance!

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Laura Jolley's avatar

Off topic

Robert do you have a link to download Jack Smith’s redacted motion from today?

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kdsherpa's avatar

Tim Walz was SUPERB! However, you had to actually LISTEN to what he said -- not watch him as he said it. vance looked great: young, strong, handsome with those penetrating blue eyes. Walz looked like an older, slightly rotund, man, not particularly good looking. But he was MAGNIFICENT for those of us who listened. I do so hope that at least a few hundred in the vance cult used their ears.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

In case you haven't heard: "BREAKING NEWS A partially unsealed brief in Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 case provided the fullest picture yet of what prosecutors found in their investigation. Wednesday, October 2, 2024 4:31 PM ET When Mike Pence was rushed to a secure location on Jan. 6, an aide alerted Donald Trump in the hope that he would take action to ensure Pence’s safety. Instead, according to grand jury testimony, Trump looked at the aide and said only, “So what?”"

Our October surprise - This is what we're fighting against! And Sarah is on MSNBC right now! Arguing because of the above, Rs like Romney need to get off their duffs and actively oppose him and endorse Harris.

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Allan Leedy's avatar

I guess I'm an outlier -- I thought Walz was much more than adequate to the debate task last night. After all, hewing to the truth is a significant constraint.

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David Sea's avatar

VANCE: you told me you wouldn't tell me I'm lying when I'm lying!!"

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Merrill's avatar

I'm waiting to receive 1000 GOTV postcards so my kids and grandkids can get them written and mailed to FL before 10/15.

Thanks for your fundraising efforts.

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Erica's avatar

These media marketing sound bites are a complete waste of time. And they have been for years. The last time I watched a debate was HRC and that was a joke too. These aren’t debates. Not by a long shot.

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Sharon L Bonney's avatar

At least Vance didn't have a fly on his forehead the whole time! At the 2020 VP debate I don't remember what either of them said (I was mesmerized by that fly!)

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Judy Columbus's avatar

LONG-AWAITED VP DEBATE

Maybe Tim will be remembered for catching Vance on The Big Lie. Maybe JD will be remembered for chastising the moderator: “The rules were we weren’t going to fact check." Today and tomorrow polls and the big board will calculate changes due to this debate, percentage moves in favorability ratings. Whether JD was coached to audition. Whether Tim was coached to do no harm.

I would have like our guy to have been stronger/meaner/louder. But, he was himself, unlike Vance who turned up as somebody else last night.

I’m thinking this would have been an interesting read...or viewing with eyes closed. If we didn’t see the handsome liar and the down-home opponent, only heard the compassionate words

and outright lies.

Historically, VP debates come and go, with no lasting influence. Good.

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Christina Kasica's avatar

Love what you said about Tim coached to do no harm. I actually think they may have done that—coached him to be mild, meek, likable, but not to go for he jugular. Vance came over as East Coast establishment, glib, slick, polished, articulate (lying but articulate lying), and condescending. Tim came across as bumbling, rumpled, down to earth, and earnest. Maybe it's better that we didn't go for blood. Maybe a civil discourse is what will be most reassuring to people. And Tim certainly gave the media plenty of ammunition for calling out Vance's biggest whoppers. The written-word analyses this morning make it crystal clear who lied (Vance, a lot) and who spoke sensible policy (Walz). In retrospect, I give the win to Walz. (It sure was different from Harris's "walking the poodle" treatment of Trump! An apricot poodle, I guess.)

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Jan B (FL via MN)'s avatar

I see so many commenters here saying they couldn’t watch the entire debate. I, too, wanted to leave the room but since Walz could not leave the stage I felt compelled to stick it out in support. He was the one who had to withstand the fire-storm of a polished liar PLUS was expected to fact-check the liar in real time while simultaneously promoting Vice President Harris. Good Lord, the man deserves a medal!

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Richard Brody's avatar

Regarding Vance’s complaint to the moderators, seems he took a page out of playground bully Donald Trump’s playbook! If I’d been the moderator/teacher I’d admonish him with the old saw: You made your bed, now sleep in it!

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Christina Kasica's avatar

How about what my mom used to say: "You should have thought of that before you did it."

Don't like to be fact-checked? Well then, don't lie.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

Thank you again. First for those pictures. [Insert sigh of pleasure.] Second for telling us about Trump's failures yesterday which is madly missing from a lot of commentaries I see today! So, when do we get demands from Rs telling Trump to sit in a corner?

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Christina Kasica's avatar

We don't want him to sit in a corner! We want him to keep running and lose badly. Polls and Putin-interference notwithstanding, there's a good chance we can beat Trump. Don't wish he bows out.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

Agree. We HAVE TO BEAT HIM! In case you haven't heard: "BREAKING NEWS A partially unsealed brief in Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 case provided the fullest picture yet of what prosecutors found in their investigation. Wednesday, October 2, 2024 4:31 PM ET When Mike Pence was rushed to a secure location on Jan. 6, an aide alerted Donald Trump in the hope that he would take action to ensure Pence’s safety. Instead, according to grand jury testimony, Trump looked at the aide and said only, “So what?”"

Our October surprise - This is what we're fighting against! And Sarah was on MSNBC a few minutes ago! Arguing because of the above, Rs like Romney need to get off their duffs and actively oppose him and endorse Harris. No more fence sitting.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

The NYT has finally discovered its senses: "The New York Times BREAKING NEWS V.P. debate highlights: A smooth JD Vance tried to rewrite the history of the Trump presidency. Tim Walz had a rocky start but found his voice on abortion and Jan. 6. Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:46 PM ET"

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Pam Edgeworth's avatar

Oh yes!! After Judge McBurney struck down Georgia's abortion law, he then took on the overly ambitious State legislators again with the voting fiasco and put them in their place! As a Georgian, I'm overjoyed that some (not all) of the ludicrous stuff that our State legislature passes is now being brought to justice.

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