Dec 29, 2022·edited Dec 29, 2022Liked by Robert B. Hubbell
Thank you very much for the shout-out Robert. I noticed a Large Uptick in notices of free subscriptions tonight, and looking at them they all include "Today's Edition Newsletter" as one of the substacks read by the individual subscribers. Thank you for doing that Robert, and thank all of you new subscribers for coming over and checking me out. Hopefully I will convince you to make the ultimate compliment of becoming a paid subscriber.
As to tonight's post...
"Christian Nationalism" is as "Christian" as "National Socialism" was "Socialist."
As to Santos, he demonstrated who and what he is when he was interviewed by Tulsi Gabbard over on Faux Snooze; when she went after him as a "moral failure" he actually rolled his eyes in response. Personally, he *looks* like the guy you *want* to see dangling on a rope from a lamp post. I had a laugh when someone on MSNBC said tonight that the Party of Santos, that the Republicans will accept him this way and say nothing, made him "almost" long for the days of Newt Gingrich 30 years ago.
I became a paid subscriber to TCinLA after reading his comments when he joined the Robert Hubbell community here, and I had noted that many readers here already followed TC's substack. I highly recommend following him. After joining his substack, it readily became evident to me that many of his values align with mine, just as Robert's do.
This connection is evidence of how our community here is growing, and I find this to be inspiring as we move into 2023 and the 2024 election cycle. Let's keep connecting and enlarging this community as we move forward in making this country the best it can be for all.
It was interesting that Elon Musk was speaking with Turkish President Erdogan at the World Cup last week. Erdogan is a key figure, the Mecca that all proponents of Christian Nationalism go to, in the spread of Christian Nationalism.
Maybe I missed the signs in previous years, but it's been a surprise to see Musk's recent dive head first into the pool of Twitter sludge he's encouraged from the far right wing while cosying up to Putin and then Erdogan. Musk is about as likable now and has about as much credibility as George Santos. Perhaps with Elon's wealth and burgeoning anti-democracy credentials and Santos' proclivity for telling whopper lies and grifting the public along with a stunning lack of shame or honesty about either, they may be the perfect pair to run as president and VP for the GOP in November, 2024.
Ye Gods, what if they win!? Oh, and now Netanyahu's ultra nationalist Israel is also joining the "moral squad,"=farewell to 'godless' Palestinians, down with LGBTQs, women their proper place,....what an ignorant, violent world they all are weaving.
“Long for the days of Newt,”. God forbid. Newt had a twisted brain, Santos seems devoid of any brain. Damn, the repubs scrape the bottom of the barrel, and keep digging
For those still interested in the fate of the migrants/immigrants who were bussed to D.C. on Christmas Eve, CNN reported with some clarity the logistics of what has been going on since April of 2022. According to CNN's reporting, a few nonprofits have been in communication with the Texas folks ahead of time, and are at the drop-off site (VP's residence), ready to transfer the people from the street to shelter facilities in the D.C. area. This is good news that has not been widely reported, at least by the news organizations that I tap into.
“The DC community has been welcoming buses from Texas anytime they’ve come since April. Christmas Eve and freezing cold weather is no different,” Fischer said. “We are always here welcoming folks with open arms.”
Thank you Lynell. ¨News¨ today seems to be forgotten a few hours after the event is in print or on social media. This story needs to have traction as it involves the re-elected, corrupt governor who continues to dance and sing, ¨Do A Little Side Step. From the film Best Little Whorehouse in Texas which was a great play. https://youtu.be/AALREbJZEZk
I was a student in Houston when Marvin Zindler (sp?) broke the story of the chicken ranch. What different times we are in now. As far as I am concerned, the GOP is a party of prostitutes kneeling before their corporate John's.
The Vice-President has a big house. If I were her political advisor, I’d do all I could to have the migrants welcomed inside for a few hours of warmth (with cookies and hot chocolate or coffee) until social-welfare organizations are ready with shelter and supplies for them. (The cynic in me—never far below the surface—says, “What a visual!”).
You are assuming, of course, that she is there and not in California with her family. Based on your snide logic, I hope you are not anyone's political advisor.
While it would be good politics to get some photos of her greeting migrants, that’s hardly necessary, nor is it all that important whether she’s there or not. And what is snide about suggesting that the Vice-President show human kindness to people in need?
Again, you are assuming she was in a position to show human kindness to people in need. I don't assume, but I do believe that if she were in her DC residence, she would have been involved in the efforts to take care of those migrants in need. To assume otherwise is thoughtless and snidely arrogant. Check your assumptions. Human kindness should not be a matter of politics and photo ops. To make politics the driving force of kindness is at the very least, an insult to the human nature of kindness.
Thank you Robert, I had not heard this news regarding Jamie Raskin. While his prognosis is good, I am still saddened and a bit angered that a man who has worked so hard for so many in defense of our constitution will now have to endure the challenge of chemo treatments. I think much my initial dismay here stems from my hope that he might run for POTUS one day.
I feel that on most days, I am driven to note Rep. Raskin and hold him in the highest regard, and this will be even more so now as he faces this summons to restore his health completely.
As a lifelong Episcopalian, I'm constantly offended by the un-christian attitudes and actions of the far right Christian Nationalists. Along with other denominations, including Lutherans, the Episcopal Church is VERY inclusive, and strong on social justice issues. We ARE speaking out, if only the press would listen. The infamous incident of the DJT forcibly clearing the square of protesters and holding up a bible, took place on the property of an Episcopal Church, whose clergy immediately took to the airwaves to condemn Trump's actions in no uncertain terms. I'm extremely proud to be an Episcopalian!
As a Jew, I obviously am horrified by the anti-Semitic rhetoric as well the many parallels to the rise of Hitler in Germany with what is going on in the US. However, I don't see this as a mainstream Christian issue, but rather a small slice of white nationalists that are cloaked under the banner of Evangelicalism. There is nothing religious about their teaching and actions. How is it that these hate mongers, violence inducing, anti-women, partisan congregations are tax exempt? That is one of the many things that really kills me.
So as I read your piece on "Christianity" vs. "Christian Nationalism," the rather trite thought popped into my head: Not all "Christians" are "Christian Nationalists", but all "Christian Nationalists" are "Christians." The more that rattled around in my brain, the less sense it made. The first half is most certainly true. But the thought that all "CN" ARE "Christians" is highly unlikely, although I guess that depends in part on how they think of "Christianity," doesn't it? THINKING you're a "Christian" and actually being one who lives their life in a Christ-like manner are two very disparate realities.
This said, to cast a light on my opinions, I am for the most part, an agnostic. Having been raised a Catholic, later going through a "Born-Again" Christian period, I later fell into a stupor of confusion and have for the past 40 years or so been unable to wrap my mind about the concepts and beliefs of blind faith in a singular all-powerful being who created the universe, life on earth, etc. I have seen those with deeply held Christian ideology who are amazingly compassionate, caring and loving people, and those who hold no such beliefs, or beliefs of different religions and faiths, that are equally so.
I'm comfortable with my confusion, and hold no animus towards those who believe and those who do not. I simply loathe hypocrisy.
I appreciate your post, Mark. It made me wonder how many "Christian Nationalists" are just white supremacists (in camouflage, khaki slacks and white shirts or Brooks Brothers suits) gathering under a banner that defines their desire that our democracy be turned into a country that is permanently controlled by rich, white, racist men. After all, TFG apparently convinced people that he was a Christian by just saying it. And if one thing is clear, the toddler from Mar-a-Lago was about as Christian as Attila the Hun. I agree with what I believe you said, which is that what matters most about anyone is how they behave and how they treat other people, not their religion or lack thereof.
CC - You interpret my meaning correctly. I mentioned that I went through a "Born-Again" period. I believed...I truly did...what turned me off and away from my belief and led to the confusion and declaring myself an agnostic was the blatant hypocrisy I saw, heard, and felt while performing an internship in a Southern Baptist church while in college. In retrospect (something I've dealt with long ago) the blatant racism happening right in front of my face went unnoticed by me until a black friend who I'd invited to attend the church I was working in shared his experience following that service. I was embarrassed and felt so horrible for having put him in that position. From that moment on I began noticing more and more instances of the racism and hypocrisy that was "normal" in that church and, as I discovered, throughout much of Southern protestant "Christian" institutions.
From that time and those experiences all those years ago, I care not what one says they believe or what they are, only what they do and who they show themselves to be.
Having spent considerable calories following the concessions that various House factions have extracted from Kevin McCarthy, whose bid for Speaker, in his view, supersedes all other matters, I can state unequivocally that no amount of criminality and corruption ultimately pinned on George Santos will approximate the detrimental impact of far right extremists setting the House agenda in the next 2 years.
Working with a handful of like-minded Robert Reich Substack subscribers, I write to appeal to everyone to contact outgoing and incoming House Democratic leadership and to urge them to join with the 40 or so more moderate, establishment-oriented House Republicans to come up with a mutually agreeable alternative.
I would add, despite Republican House members affiliated with the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, Main Street Caucus, and Republican Governance Group all seemingly united in urging House members to support Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, that most probably are more concerned than you and I about being held hostage by MAGA extremists.
Robert, One name I’ve heard mentioned is Don Bacon (R-NE), who speaks about his “reach across the aisle” and about the 30 Ds and 30 Rs who comprise the bipartisan “Problem Solvers Caucus.” I also would note Heather Cox Richardson had mentioned Bacon in a recent LFAA.
Based on a past “moderate” vote, other possibilities include the 2 House Republicans who voted for Trump’s Second Impeachment and held their seats—Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash) and Rep. David Valadao (R-Calif). Or the 2 who voted to approve the $1.7 trillion omnibus bill to fund the government and held their seats—Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA) and Steve Womack (R-AK). Or the 39 who voted for the Respect For Marriage Act, many of whom will be back next week. Regrettably, none of the 5 who voted in favor of requiring the IRS to conduct annual audits of the president’s tax returns held their seats.
Additionally, I would note, along with Democrats Hakeem Jeffries, Katherine Clark, Pete Aguilar, and Nancy Pelosi, I also was advised to contact individual Republicans who publicly support McCarthy, but privately abhor the extremists who already are holding the party hostage. The list includes Don Bacon (NE), Blake Moore (UT), Young Kim (CA), Dave Joyce (Ohio), John Curtis (UT), Maria Salazar (FL), and David Valadao (CA)., whom I will urge to elect a compromise candidate who owes nothing to the MAGA faction
On a final note, I expect to call Problem Solvers Caucus members Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) and Debbie Dingell (D-MI), who know the consequences of caving to the faction that McCarthy is wooing better than I do.
Excellent post. I have been wondering how many house Republican moderates there are. Out of the 40 you mention, are there not 6 who would make a coalition with democrats to elect a moderate speaker. Why do they support McCarthy?
Ned, While peeling off a half-dozen potential moderate votes is good strategy, I understand, specifically from Reich subscriber Jerry Weiss, that it might be easier to get 40 votes than 5. “Moderates,” Jerry posits, “by their very nature are, well, moderate and will be reluctant to act boldly. That’s why the best candidate would be one who comes with substantial support from colleagues.”
Of course if we can get 40 GOP moderate votes even better! Maybe there is such a thing as a "bold" moderate. Let's urge Democratic leadership to try this strategy! Maybe some legislation could happen. And of course it would be worth it to see the far right and the unprincipled Kevin McCarthy's heads explode!
Ned, I appreciate your enthusiasm. Were you to read my reply to Robert, who is part of this thread, it could help you map out a strategy. Please, however, keep in mind that the vote to elect a Speaker is scheduled for Tuesday, January 3rd.
Grace, Considering, this past weekend, McCarthy has caved to increasing demands from the most extremist wing of the Freedom Caucus, he could reach the 218 vote threshold. I understand another possibility is that more moderate Republicans, who are becoming increasingly anxious regarding the degree to which McCarthy is kowtowing to this radical MAGA faction, could join with Democrats to find a consensus Speaker willing to work across the aisle. We won’t stop working for the latter as long as there’s a shot enough moderate Republican are committed to preserving the integrity of the institution.
An op-ed in the NYT suggests the next Speaker should come from outside the House. Very interesting hypothesis, though of course not going to happen in today's GOP.
Karen, I would note that the only outside candidate I’m aware of under consideration is Lee Zeldin (R-NY), an ultra conservative who ran against incumbent Kathy Hochul for governor of New York and, having lost, might, or might not, be challenging RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel. I understand, should McCarthy’s bid for Speaker fail on the first ballot, the 5 Freedom Caucus MAGA extremists who oppose McCarthy could try and draft Zeldin.
Lynn, Thank you. I should have noted that Zeldin voted to overturn the 2020 presidential election results before leaving Congress to run against Hochul.
A couple of not-profound thoughts. First, anyone who has any sympathy for Santos should ask him/herself what a private employer would do upon finding these lies in a job application. It is appalling that McCarthy and other GOP leaders have been silent. Except Greene, who has welcomed him. She is the best example I have seen of a screwball. Second: I suspect the majority of your readers applaud the heroism of Cassidy Hutchinson. I certainly do. But I am a bit concerned for her and believe it might be a good idea to tone down the public commentary.
What could bring Santos down most quickly would be the discovery that he is not a US citizen, and thus not entitled to serve in Congress. (Apparently, he told a number of people that he was born in Brazil.) I should think it would be easy for NYT to search birth records in the counties in which he either says he was born or is likely to have been born (in New York that would be Queens, Brooklyn and Nassau) around the date he claims to have been born. If there is no birth certificate, then Democrats and the media need to demand that he produce one (long-form), at once. After all, if he really was born in the US, that should be obtainable within hours. If he changes his story and asserts that he’s an immigrant, a record of naturalization should be even easier to produce.
Unfortunately, there exists a ton of animosity towards Christians. Americans are a beat-up Nation. We have suffered mightily at the hands of praying alt right Christian Nationalists who are now sitting on the Supreme Court, in the Halls of Congress and awaiting prison sentences for their participation in the January 6 insurrection. Last but not least. Millions of women's lives are at risk because Christians couldn't keep their opinions off women's bodies. The overturning of Roe v Wade will reverberate for generations. Too bad your feelings are hurt Christians.
Barbara M, I understand your frustration with these far right people espousing hate and division, who call themselves "Christians." They can be considered Christian in the sense that they are not Buddhists, Muslims, or some other religion. I am a Christ follower. I hate the term "Christian" because of the people who use their religion to hurt others, so far from what Christ taught his followers. People who follow Christ should be characterized by love, which is the willingness to extend yourself for the physical, mental, spiritual wellbeing of another. I John 4:18-20 in the New Testament of the Christian Bible says that perfect love casts out fear. If a person says they love God but hate others, they are liars. Nothing more to say.
I know there are millions of "followers of Christ" who despair of the criminal and corrupt activities of the "Christian Nationalists". Thank you for speaking up.
But your voices are not loud enough. You are losing the war. Americans need to hear "true followers" express outrage and rejection of those who appropriated your faith for evil purposes. Your reasonable and loving brethren need to make some "good trouble". It's almost too late.
Thank You. Thank You for saying what I was struggling to get at. I hope Christians everywhere can wage a war against the actions of the Christian Nationalists as well. I wonder if it isn't already too late. I fear the first thing being asked is "where were you when..."
I and I believe many other Americans are beyond "frustrated." We are wounded. We are wounded from attacks on our Country, and Democracy by people calling themselves Christians. We are wounded when the Supreme Court Christian Justices hand down anti-Democracy and anti-humanity decrees. We are wounded when Christians support guns.
It is deeply regrettable that true believers and followers of Christ are also being wounded.
I mourn that the word "Christian" now means something besides a belief in Jesus Christ, which should stand for kindness and love for all. Would "white Christian nationalists" be more apt, or "hypocritical Christians?" I hope that "Christian" doesn't become synonymous with the stalwart devotees of the alt right; full of greed and righteousness.
Please reread my comment. I did differentiate between the two labels. As I have said in another comment it is regrettable that Cristians have been rolled into complicity with the Nationalists Christians.
This whole discussion started with a minister's frustration at not being given a voice in dissenting from the Christian Nationalists.
Santos shows us the upshot of what happens when lying becomes a political strategy. The GOP, Fox News, the SCOTUS (and wives). I hope this story stays alive.
Back when reporters were serious professionals, they would not parrot the inconsistent lies of a failed politician like Santos - or tfg. They would lay bare the facts and draw whatever conclusions were supported by evidence and sound reasoning. At most the lies and absurd statements of news subjects would be put in quotes, and their inaccuracies and contradictions pointed out and refuted.
What passes for journalism today in most cases would have Murrow and Cronkite spinning in their graves. It does a grave disservice to the country to have the "free press" so hobbled and neutered by their own incompetence and/or their willingness to be compromised by partisan interests. News ain't news when it's partisan; but like the frog in the pot of water, we've been steadily accustomed to lowered standards, to the point that almost anything printed, published, broadcast, or released on the internet is "news".
Mona Charon wrote an excellent piece in the Bulwark yesterday. Not only does it excoriate Greg Abbot for his cruelty, but it also details why immigrants are actually needed in this country right now. Sometimes I feel like I'm screaming into a barrel...loud but no one else hears me. How can we amplify this message and get people to actually realize we MUST do something about the migrant situation and the dreamers?
Good morning and thank you so much for your concise reporting of events with explanation.
It was difficult to read that Jamie Raskin is ill. I wish him all the best. He is a beacon of light in congress. His knowledge, courage and understanding of our country’s history is outstanding.
The Episcopal priest is correct. What sane people say isn’t news worthy. It would be good if the major news services would print people who are speaking out for justice.
Thank you very much for the shout-out Robert. I noticed a Large Uptick in notices of free subscriptions tonight, and looking at them they all include "Today's Edition Newsletter" as one of the substacks read by the individual subscribers. Thank you for doing that Robert, and thank all of you new subscribers for coming over and checking me out. Hopefully I will convince you to make the ultimate compliment of becoming a paid subscriber.
As to tonight's post...
"Christian Nationalism" is as "Christian" as "National Socialism" was "Socialist."
As to Santos, he demonstrated who and what he is when he was interviewed by Tulsi Gabbard over on Faux Snooze; when she went after him as a "moral failure" he actually rolled his eyes in response. Personally, he *looks* like the guy you *want* to see dangling on a rope from a lamp post. I had a laugh when someone on MSNBC said tonight that the Party of Santos, that the Republicans will accept him this way and say nothing, made him "almost" long for the days of Newt Gingrich 30 years ago.
I became a paid subscriber to TCinLA after reading his comments when he joined the Robert Hubbell community here, and I had noted that many readers here already followed TC's substack. I highly recommend following him. After joining his substack, it readily became evident to me that many of his values align with mine, just as Robert's do.
This connection is evidence of how our community here is growing, and I find this to be inspiring as we move into 2023 and the 2024 election cycle. Let's keep connecting and enlarging this community as we move forward in making this country the best it can be for all.
It was interesting that Elon Musk was speaking with Turkish President Erdogan at the World Cup last week. Erdogan is a key figure, the Mecca that all proponents of Christian Nationalism go to, in the spread of Christian Nationalism.
Maybe I missed the signs in previous years, but it's been a surprise to see Musk's recent dive head first into the pool of Twitter sludge he's encouraged from the far right wing while cosying up to Putin and then Erdogan. Musk is about as likable now and has about as much credibility as George Santos. Perhaps with Elon's wealth and burgeoning anti-democracy credentials and Santos' proclivity for telling whopper lies and grifting the public along with a stunning lack of shame or honesty about either, they may be the perfect pair to run as president and VP for the GOP in November, 2024.
Ye Gods, what if they win!? Oh, and now Netanyahu's ultra nationalist Israel is also joining the "moral squad,"=farewell to 'godless' Palestinians, down with LGBTQs, women their proper place,....what an ignorant, violent world they all are weaving.
Bebe should be tarred and feathered,. One evil bastard, among many
Lordy, what a vision. But repubs have a flair for the grotesque
“Long for the days of Newt,”. God forbid. Newt had a twisted brain, Santos seems devoid of any brain. Damn, the repubs scrape the bottom of the barrel, and keep digging
Who longed for the days of the newt?? When he was dismantling the bridge across the aisle it was a major moment that lead to where we are now.
TC, I reposted it on my social media platforms. Great job! There is an important typo I think. Heldemen instead of Haldeman
For those still interested in the fate of the migrants/immigrants who were bussed to D.C. on Christmas Eve, CNN reported with some clarity the logistics of what has been going on since April of 2022. According to CNN's reporting, a few nonprofits have been in communication with the Texas folks ahead of time, and are at the drop-off site (VP's residence), ready to transfer the people from the street to shelter facilities in the D.C. area. This is good news that has not been widely reported, at least by the news organizations that I tap into.
“The DC community has been welcoming buses from Texas anytime they’ve come since April. Christmas Eve and freezing cold weather is no different,” Fischer said. “We are always here welcoming folks with open arms.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/24/politics/migrants-dropped-off-vice-president-christmas-eve/index.html
Thank you Lynell. ¨News¨ today seems to be forgotten a few hours after the event is in print or on social media. This story needs to have traction as it involves the re-elected, corrupt governor who continues to dance and sing, ¨Do A Little Side Step. From the film Best Little Whorehouse in Texas which was a great play. https://youtu.be/AALREbJZEZk
Thanks, Gailee. I'm sure you'll agree that "little side step" is funny - not funny!
I was a student in Houston when Marvin Zindler (sp?) broke the story of the chicken ranch. What different times we are in now. As far as I am concerned, the GOP is a party of prostitutes kneeling before their corporate John's.
Damn, somebody remembers (Slime in the ice machine) Marvin. He was a hoot.
He truly was.
The Vice-President has a big house. If I were her political advisor, I’d do all I could to have the migrants welcomed inside for a few hours of warmth (with cookies and hot chocolate or coffee) until social-welfare organizations are ready with shelter and supplies for them. (The cynic in me—never far below the surface—says, “What a visual!”).
You are assuming, of course, that she is there and not in California with her family. Based on your snide logic, I hope you are not anyone's political advisor.
While it would be good politics to get some photos of her greeting migrants, that’s hardly necessary, nor is it all that important whether she’s there or not. And what is snide about suggesting that the Vice-President show human kindness to people in need?
Again, you are assuming she was in a position to show human kindness to people in need. I don't assume, but I do believe that if she were in her DC residence, she would have been involved in the efforts to take care of those migrants in need. To assume otherwise is thoughtless and snidely arrogant. Check your assumptions. Human kindness should not be a matter of politics and photo ops. To make politics the driving force of kindness is at the very least, an insult to the human nature of kindness.
Thank you Robert, I had not heard this news regarding Jamie Raskin. While his prognosis is good, I am still saddened and a bit angered that a man who has worked so hard for so many in defense of our constitution will now have to endure the challenge of chemo treatments. I think much my initial dismay here stems from my hope that he might run for POTUS one day.
I feel that on most days, I am driven to note Rep. Raskin and hold him in the highest regard, and this will be even more so now as he faces this summons to restore his health completely.
It’s been just two years since Raskin lost his son to suicide. It breaks my heart that such a good man has to endure so much.
As a lifelong Episcopalian, I'm constantly offended by the un-christian attitudes and actions of the far right Christian Nationalists. Along with other denominations, including Lutherans, the Episcopal Church is VERY inclusive, and strong on social justice issues. We ARE speaking out, if only the press would listen. The infamous incident of the DJT forcibly clearing the square of protesters and holding up a bible, took place on the property of an Episcopal Church, whose clergy immediately took to the airwaves to condemn Trump's actions in no uncertain terms. I'm extremely proud to be an Episcopalian!
I know that George Santos' resume says he was born in the United States. To echo a long ago question, has anyone seen his birth certificate?
I’m certain my Fl House Freedom Caucus Rep will introduce his second “birther bill”. NOT !
Interestingly, Santos’ recently revived Devolder Corp finds its home here in a residential condo.
Good one 👏
Sorry—not sorry, but LMAO!! Good one! Payback can be a …..
As a Jew, I obviously am horrified by the anti-Semitic rhetoric as well the many parallels to the rise of Hitler in Germany with what is going on in the US. However, I don't see this as a mainstream Christian issue, but rather a small slice of white nationalists that are cloaked under the banner of Evangelicalism. There is nothing religious about their teaching and actions. How is it that these hate mongers, violence inducing, anti-women, partisan congregations are tax exempt? That is one of the many things that really kills me.
"...are tax exempt? That is one of the many things that really kills me." Yep!!
So as I read your piece on "Christianity" vs. "Christian Nationalism," the rather trite thought popped into my head: Not all "Christians" are "Christian Nationalists", but all "Christian Nationalists" are "Christians." The more that rattled around in my brain, the less sense it made. The first half is most certainly true. But the thought that all "CN" ARE "Christians" is highly unlikely, although I guess that depends in part on how they think of "Christianity," doesn't it? THINKING you're a "Christian" and actually being one who lives their life in a Christ-like manner are two very disparate realities.
This said, to cast a light on my opinions, I am for the most part, an agnostic. Having been raised a Catholic, later going through a "Born-Again" Christian period, I later fell into a stupor of confusion and have for the past 40 years or so been unable to wrap my mind about the concepts and beliefs of blind faith in a singular all-powerful being who created the universe, life on earth, etc. I have seen those with deeply held Christian ideology who are amazingly compassionate, caring and loving people, and those who hold no such beliefs, or beliefs of different religions and faiths, that are equally so.
I'm comfortable with my confusion, and hold no animus towards those who believe and those who do not. I simply loathe hypocrisy.
Your Venn diagram is correct, as is your definition of what it means to be Christian!.
I appreciate your post, Mark. It made me wonder how many "Christian Nationalists" are just white supremacists (in camouflage, khaki slacks and white shirts or Brooks Brothers suits) gathering under a banner that defines their desire that our democracy be turned into a country that is permanently controlled by rich, white, racist men. After all, TFG apparently convinced people that he was a Christian by just saying it. And if one thing is clear, the toddler from Mar-a-Lago was about as Christian as Attila the Hun. I agree with what I believe you said, which is that what matters most about anyone is how they behave and how they treat other people, not their religion or lack thereof.
CC - You interpret my meaning correctly. I mentioned that I went through a "Born-Again" period. I believed...I truly did...what turned me off and away from my belief and led to the confusion and declaring myself an agnostic was the blatant hypocrisy I saw, heard, and felt while performing an internship in a Southern Baptist church while in college. In retrospect (something I've dealt with long ago) the blatant racism happening right in front of my face went unnoticed by me until a black friend who I'd invited to attend the church I was working in shared his experience following that service. I was embarrassed and felt so horrible for having put him in that position. From that moment on I began noticing more and more instances of the racism and hypocrisy that was "normal" in that church and, as I discovered, throughout much of Southern protestant "Christian" institutions.
From that time and those experiences all those years ago, I care not what one says they believe or what they are, only what they do and who they show themselves to be.
Wow, walk a mile in someone’s shoes. We all should
Excellent, and hypocrisy is the religion for so many…
Having spent considerable calories following the concessions that various House factions have extracted from Kevin McCarthy, whose bid for Speaker, in his view, supersedes all other matters, I can state unequivocally that no amount of criminality and corruption ultimately pinned on George Santos will approximate the detrimental impact of far right extremists setting the House agenda in the next 2 years.
Working with a handful of like-minded Robert Reich Substack subscribers, I write to appeal to everyone to contact outgoing and incoming House Democratic leadership and to urge them to join with the 40 or so more moderate, establishment-oriented House Republicans to come up with a mutually agreeable alternative.
I would add, despite Republican House members affiliated with the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, Main Street Caucus, and Republican Governance Group all seemingly united in urging House members to support Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, that most probably are more concerned than you and I about being held hostage by MAGA extremists.
Good plan. But who is the compromise candidate? .
Robert, One name I’ve heard mentioned is Don Bacon (R-NE), who speaks about his “reach across the aisle” and about the 30 Ds and 30 Rs who comprise the bipartisan “Problem Solvers Caucus.” I also would note Heather Cox Richardson had mentioned Bacon in a recent LFAA.
Based on a past “moderate” vote, other possibilities include the 2 House Republicans who voted for Trump’s Second Impeachment and held their seats—Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash) and Rep. David Valadao (R-Calif). Or the 2 who voted to approve the $1.7 trillion omnibus bill to fund the government and held their seats—Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA) and Steve Womack (R-AK). Or the 39 who voted for the Respect For Marriage Act, many of whom will be back next week. Regrettably, none of the 5 who voted in favor of requiring the IRS to conduct annual audits of the president’s tax returns held their seats.
Additionally, I would note, along with Democrats Hakeem Jeffries, Katherine Clark, Pete Aguilar, and Nancy Pelosi, I also was advised to contact individual Republicans who publicly support McCarthy, but privately abhor the extremists who already are holding the party hostage. The list includes Don Bacon (NE), Blake Moore (UT), Young Kim (CA), Dave Joyce (Ohio), John Curtis (UT), Maria Salazar (FL), and David Valadao (CA)., whom I will urge to elect a compromise candidate who owes nothing to the MAGA faction
On a final note, I expect to call Problem Solvers Caucus members Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) and Debbie Dingell (D-MI), who know the consequences of caving to the faction that McCarthy is wooing better than I do.
I don’t know anything about moderate republicans. Any suggestions?
Excellent post. I have been wondering how many house Republican moderates there are. Out of the 40 you mention, are there not 6 who would make a coalition with democrats to elect a moderate speaker. Why do they support McCarthy?
Ned, While peeling off a half-dozen potential moderate votes is good strategy, I understand, specifically from Reich subscriber Jerry Weiss, that it might be easier to get 40 votes than 5. “Moderates,” Jerry posits, “by their very nature are, well, moderate and will be reluctant to act boldly. That’s why the best candidate would be one who comes with substantial support from colleagues.”
Of course if we can get 40 GOP moderate votes even better! Maybe there is such a thing as a "bold" moderate. Let's urge Democratic leadership to try this strategy! Maybe some legislation could happen. And of course it would be worth it to see the far right and the unprincipled Kevin McCarthy's heads explode!
Ned, I appreciate your enthusiasm. Were you to read my reply to Robert, who is part of this thread, it could help you map out a strategy. Please, however, keep in mind that the vote to elect a Speaker is scheduled for Tuesday, January 3rd.
Well, the first round at least. Nobody may win this one.
Grace, Considering, this past weekend, McCarthy has caved to increasing demands from the most extremist wing of the Freedom Caucus, he could reach the 218 vote threshold. I understand another possibility is that more moderate Republicans, who are becoming increasingly anxious regarding the degree to which McCarthy is kowtowing to this radical MAGA faction, could join with Democrats to find a consensus Speaker willing to work across the aisle. We won’t stop working for the latter as long as there’s a shot enough moderate Republican are committed to preserving the integrity of the institution.
Read it and responded. Many thanks!
An op-ed in the NYT suggests the next Speaker should come from outside the House. Very interesting hypothesis, though of course not going to happen in today's GOP.
Karen, I would note that the only outside candidate I’m aware of under consideration is Lee Zeldin (R-NY), an ultra conservative who ran against incumbent Kathy Hochul for governor of New York and, having lost, might, or might not, be challenging RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel. I understand, should McCarthy’s bid for Speaker fail on the first ballot, the 5 Freedom Caucus MAGA extremists who oppose McCarthy could try and draft Zeldin.
Zeldin has the resume to please the Magats. As a staunch supporter of TFG, he voted against certifying the 2020 election
Lynn, Thank you. I should have noted that Zeldin voted to overturn the 2020 presidential election results before leaving Congress to run against Hochul.
A couple of not-profound thoughts. First, anyone who has any sympathy for Santos should ask him/herself what a private employer would do upon finding these lies in a job application. It is appalling that McCarthy and other GOP leaders have been silent. Except Greene, who has welcomed him. She is the best example I have seen of a screwball. Second: I suspect the majority of your readers applaud the heroism of Cassidy Hutchinson. I certainly do. But I am a bit concerned for her and believe it might be a good idea to tone down the public commentary.
I sure hope Hutchinson is in witness protection.
What could bring Santos down most quickly would be the discovery that he is not a US citizen, and thus not entitled to serve in Congress. (Apparently, he told a number of people that he was born in Brazil.) I should think it would be easy for NYT to search birth records in the counties in which he either says he was born or is likely to have been born (in New York that would be Queens, Brooklyn and Nassau) around the date he claims to have been born. If there is no birth certificate, then Democrats and the media need to demand that he produce one (long-form), at once. After all, if he really was born in the US, that should be obtainable within hours. If he changes his story and asserts that he’s an immigrant, a record of naturalization should be even easier to produce.
RE: The hurt feelings of some Christians
Unfortunately, there exists a ton of animosity towards Christians. Americans are a beat-up Nation. We have suffered mightily at the hands of praying alt right Christian Nationalists who are now sitting on the Supreme Court, in the Halls of Congress and awaiting prison sentences for their participation in the January 6 insurrection. Last but not least. Millions of women's lives are at risk because Christians couldn't keep their opinions off women's bodies. The overturning of Roe v Wade will reverberate for generations. Too bad your feelings are hurt Christians.
Barbara M, I understand your frustration with these far right people espousing hate and division, who call themselves "Christians." They can be considered Christian in the sense that they are not Buddhists, Muslims, or some other religion. I am a Christ follower. I hate the term "Christian" because of the people who use their religion to hurt others, so far from what Christ taught his followers. People who follow Christ should be characterized by love, which is the willingness to extend yourself for the physical, mental, spiritual wellbeing of another. I John 4:18-20 in the New Testament of the Christian Bible says that perfect love casts out fear. If a person says they love God but hate others, they are liars. Nothing more to say.
I know there are millions of "followers of Christ" who despair of the criminal and corrupt activities of the "Christian Nationalists". Thank you for speaking up.
But your voices are not loud enough. You are losing the war. Americans need to hear "true followers" express outrage and rejection of those who appropriated your faith for evil purposes. Your reasonable and loving brethren need to make some "good trouble". It's almost too late.
I agree, but let's not forget the sexual abuse that has gone on for generations in the churches. It makes me sick!
Thank You. Thank You for saying what I was struggling to get at. I hope Christians everywhere can wage a war against the actions of the Christian Nationalists as well. I wonder if it isn't already too late. I fear the first thing being asked is "where were you when..."
I and I believe many other Americans are beyond "frustrated." We are wounded. We are wounded from attacks on our Country, and Democracy by people calling themselves Christians. We are wounded when the Supreme Court Christian Justices hand down anti-Democracy and anti-humanity decrees. We are wounded when Christians support guns.
It is deeply regrettable that true believers and followers of Christ are also being wounded.
I mourn that the word "Christian" now means something besides a belief in Jesus Christ, which should stand for kindness and love for all. Would "white Christian nationalists" be more apt, or "hypocritical Christians?" I hope that "Christian" doesn't become synonymous with the stalwart devotees of the alt right; full of greed and righteousness.
Please reread my comment. I did differentiate between the two labels. As I have said in another comment it is regrettable that Cristians have been rolled into complicity with the Nationalists Christians.
This whole discussion started with a minister's frustration at not being given a voice in dissenting from the Christian Nationalists.
Santos shows us the upshot of what happens when lying becomes a political strategy. The GOP, Fox News, the SCOTUS (and wives). I hope this story stays alive.
Back when reporters were serious professionals, they would not parrot the inconsistent lies of a failed politician like Santos - or tfg. They would lay bare the facts and draw whatever conclusions were supported by evidence and sound reasoning. At most the lies and absurd statements of news subjects would be put in quotes, and their inaccuracies and contradictions pointed out and refuted.
What passes for journalism today in most cases would have Murrow and Cronkite spinning in their graves. It does a grave disservice to the country to have the "free press" so hobbled and neutered by their own incompetence and/or their willingness to be compromised by partisan interests. News ain't news when it's partisan; but like the frog in the pot of water, we've been steadily accustomed to lowered standards, to the point that almost anything printed, published, broadcast, or released on the internet is "news".
Been coming since Ronnie brought Rupert in
Mona Charon wrote an excellent piece in the Bulwark yesterday. Not only does it excoriate Greg Abbot for his cruelty, but it also details why immigrants are actually needed in this country right now. Sometimes I feel like I'm screaming into a barrel...loud but no one else hears me. How can we amplify this message and get people to actually realize we MUST do something about the migrant situation and the dreamers?
https://www.thebulwark.com/greg-abbott-scrooge/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Good morning and thank you so much for your concise reporting of events with explanation.
It was difficult to read that Jamie Raskin is ill. I wish him all the best. He is a beacon of light in congress. His knowledge, courage and understanding of our country’s history is outstanding.
The Episcopal priest is correct. What sane people say isn’t news worthy. It would be good if the major news services would print people who are speaking out for justice.