Jocelyn, the link I just provided has the Spoonamore letter and a little way down the Spoonamore letter he gives a link to the other computer scientists' letter. So you should be able to access both from that one link.
Jocelyn, the link I just provided has the Spoonamore letter and a little way down the Spoonamore letter he gives a link to the other computer scientists' letter. So you should be able to access both from that one link.
Are there any downsides to doing a recount? If it turns out there’s nothing wrong, we will accept that - not like the other side that kept pushing a false narrative even after being proven wrong. If there was something fishy going on, then we could act on it.
I don’t like conspiracies either, but our democracy is at stake. Shouldn’t someone like the FBI orCIA investigate the possibility? ???
Exactly. There are no downsides to doing a hand-recount or at least some sort of limited forensic audit. It's the only way to truly have confidence in election outcomes whether the concerns are imaginary and done in bad faith (2020) or painfully obvious with plenty of evidence like this year. The fact that after political operatives breached voting systems in several states, stole proprietary software, spread it over the internet and then we don't even bother to check what's real and what's not is a form of passive, collective insanity. FBI or CIA will not touch this. Not in their purview. It's entirely up to us to insist on it or let it slide.
Janet HB, Sorry, that last sentence of my response to you was terribly imprecise. Currently, I do not believe there are many legal avenues open to us, merely as citizens, to demand recounts except in some places in individual precincts. My understanding is that the way we currently have things set up it's only the candidates themselves who can really make it happen. And even then, not always. Jill Stein tried to get some hand-recounts in several swing states several election cycles ago and multiple obstacles were thrown in her way making it prohibitively expensive and thus in short order rendering it impossible.
Jocelyn, the link I just provided has the Spoonamore letter and a little way down the Spoonamore letter he gives a link to the other computer scientists' letter. So you should be able to access both from that one link.
Are there any downsides to doing a recount? If it turns out there’s nothing wrong, we will accept that - not like the other side that kept pushing a false narrative even after being proven wrong. If there was something fishy going on, then we could act on it.
I don’t like conspiracies either, but our democracy is at stake. Shouldn’t someone like the FBI orCIA investigate the possibility? ???
Exactly. There are no downsides to doing a hand-recount or at least some sort of limited forensic audit. It's the only way to truly have confidence in election outcomes whether the concerns are imaginary and done in bad faith (2020) or painfully obvious with plenty of evidence like this year. The fact that after political operatives breached voting systems in several states, stole proprietary software, spread it over the internet and then we don't even bother to check what's real and what's not is a form of passive, collective insanity. FBI or CIA will not touch this. Not in their purview. It's entirely up to us to insist on it or let it slide.
Janet HB, Sorry, that last sentence of my response to you was terribly imprecise. Currently, I do not believe there are many legal avenues open to us, merely as citizens, to demand recounts except in some places in individual precincts. My understanding is that the way we currently have things set up it's only the candidates themselves who can really make it happen. And even then, not always. Jill Stein tried to get some hand-recounts in several swing states several election cycles ago and multiple obstacles were thrown in her way making it prohibitively expensive and thus in short order rendering it impossible.