Hopefully when E. Jean Carroll re-sues Trump for defamation, she'll include every one of the Warner Brothers Discovery scumbags from John Malone and David Zaslav on down who set the policy at CNN that led Licht to commit this crime against decency.
What is as much, or even more disturbing, is the audience reaction (clapping and cheering enthusiastically), at the insults, and the applause at his calling Kaitlin Collins nasty. CNN should have immediately stepped in. Ruth Ben-Ghiat likened it to whipping up a mob.
May 12, 2023·edited May 12, 2023Liked by Robert B. Hubbell
When I read concerns and/or criticisms of Biden because of his age, one of my reactions is: yes....but. But Biden surrounds himself with first class counselors and the secretaries of departments of our government are first class minds. Compare that to the chaos delivered by the people that Trump attracted.
Also for Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, and other enablers and supporters of violent authoritarians (support is the net result of not actively opposing):
"Appeasement didn’t work in the 1930s and it won’t work now. That doesn’t mean that people have to be angry or hate back or hostile, but it does mean they have to stand on principle and defend what’s under attack. There are situations in which there is no common ground worth standing on, let alone hiking over to. If Nazis wanted to reach out and find common ground and understand us, they probably would not have had that tiki-torch parade full of white men bellowing “Jews will not replace us” and, also, they would not be Nazis. Being Nazis, white supremacists, misogynists, transphobes is all part of a project of refusing to understand as part of refusing to respect. It is a minority position but by granting it deference we give it, over and over, the power of a majority position."
I abhorred this having a town hall and what it produced. But there is another way to look at this. If Trump is the GOP then his statements represent GOP platforms going into 2024. These are the same clear exact points that every Democrat should be campaigning against and repeat over and over again. The polls as Robert has written are not accurate. This is just one event of a true wake up call. Democrats get on the offensive and don’t f#%?!g stop!
I used to subscribe to the morning readout of hot topics from CNN but no more. While unsubscribing I had the opportunity to provide a reason and my answer was that I was "totally disgusted" with their network due to the airing of the free infomercial for the former guy. Join me? Hey, we might make a difference.
I agree with everything here, but have come to think CNN did us all a favor by shoving the real Trump into our faces and the faces of voters across the nation. I had forgotten how bad he is and he reminded us that he is worse than we think. And we are reminded of the greatest danger: his charisma with his base. He is colorful, excites your adrenalin, and stirs up the limbic brain. It’s hard to believe how bad he is and CNN did us a favor by exposing the raw Trump to us. Biden is a brilliant president, but he’s not exciting. Trump is a disaster, but he’s exciting. We need to be stirred up and in fighting form to make sure Trump is never president. CNN served a great purpose in rubbing our faces in the excrement that is Trump. We will fight harder now! And hopefully the prosecutors will see that they need to step up their work to get him convicted for his seditious, treasonous, criminal behavior.
CNN has set themselves up for multiple lawsuits comparable to those against FOX News and others. The Dominion lawsuit was quite costly for FOX. The Smartmatic lawsuit against FOX is underway. New defamation cases could be brought up by E. Jean Carroll, Speaker Emeritus Pelosi, and others. Did he defame Liz Cheney? And surely Jack Smith was taking notes.
CNN’s platform for lies, defamation, and anti-democracy fulminations by a debased and dangerous man is unconscionable. But I guess conscience is in short supply in Trump’s America. I will be boycotting both the man and the network.
From Axios: "On Thursday morning’s call, Licht noted that “while it might’ve been uncomfortable to hear people clapping in response to some of the president’s answers, that audience represents the views of a large swath of America. The mistake the media made in the past is ignoring that they exist.” He added, “Just as you cannot ignore that President Trump exists. The idea of doing so is [an] overcorrection of a time when nets took campaign rallies live.”
So there you have it. A major network lets Hitler hold a rally on TV because he exists. This is analogous to allowing poison from some factory escape into the air and doing nothing about it because, well, it exists.
Who else is wondering what Mr. Colbert thinks about his old boss? Here’s hoping the writers strike gets settled soon so I can have my other source of news back.
It unfortunately IMO, is fundamentally impossible to refrain from using expletives when commenting on the abhorrent and morally absent state of the current state of the Republican Party.
It is well past the time to stop criticizing Malone’s CNN and Murdoch’s Fox for being bad news channels and recognize that they want TFG to win and are using their channels to try to make it happen.
CNN did not make a mistake in judgment. They (the owners) knew exactly what they were doing. They are aiding the enemy of democracy intentionally because this victory is what they want. and my guess is they are very
You are so right, Robert! For months now I have left the room when my husband turns on CNN. We did not watch the “town hall”. I’m still trying to word my letter to CNN to express my disappointment and displeasure at their decision.
Hopefully when E. Jean Carroll re-sues Trump for defamation, she'll include every one of the Warner Brothers Discovery scumbags from John Malone and David Zaslav on down who set the policy at CNN that led Licht to commit this crime against decency.
"You are what you tolerate." - Joyce Vance, a couple days ago.
Shame on Anderson Cooper. Emboldening fascists...well, emboldens fascists. Learn from history -- say, history from 2015 and 2016. Cooper and others normalizing anti-democratic individuals and cult members should read https://johnpavlovitz.com/2022/03/18/no-all-opinions-are-not-equally-valid/
What is as much, or even more disturbing, is the audience reaction (clapping and cheering enthusiastically), at the insults, and the applause at his calling Kaitlin Collins nasty. CNN should have immediately stepped in. Ruth Ben-Ghiat likened it to whipping up a mob.
When I read concerns and/or criticisms of Biden because of his age, one of my reactions is: yes....but. But Biden surrounds himself with first class counselors and the secretaries of departments of our government are first class minds. Compare that to the chaos delivered by the people that Trump attracted.
Also for Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, and other enablers and supporters of violent authoritarians (support is the net result of not actively opposing):
"Appeasement didn’t work in the 1930s and it won’t work now. That doesn’t mean that people have to be angry or hate back or hostile, but it does mean they have to stand on principle and defend what’s under attack. There are situations in which there is no common ground worth standing on, let alone hiking over to. If Nazis wanted to reach out and find common ground and understand us, they probably would not have had that tiki-torch parade full of white men bellowing “Jews will not replace us” and, also, they would not be Nazis. Being Nazis, white supremacists, misogynists, transphobes is all part of a project of refusing to understand as part of refusing to respect. It is a minority position but by granting it deference we give it, over and over, the power of a majority position."
(Source: https://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-on-not-meeting-nazis-halfway/ )
I abhorred this having a town hall and what it produced. But there is another way to look at this. If Trump is the GOP then his statements represent GOP platforms going into 2024. These are the same clear exact points that every Democrat should be campaigning against and repeat over and over again. The polls as Robert has written are not accurate. This is just one event of a true wake up call. Democrats get on the offensive and don’t f#%?!g stop!
I used to subscribe to the morning readout of hot topics from CNN but no more. While unsubscribing I had the opportunity to provide a reason and my answer was that I was "totally disgusted" with their network due to the airing of the free infomercial for the former guy. Join me? Hey, we might make a difference.
You always leave us with suggestions for positive thoughts and productive next action Robert. Good on ya!!!
I agree with everything here, but have come to think CNN did us all a favor by shoving the real Trump into our faces and the faces of voters across the nation. I had forgotten how bad he is and he reminded us that he is worse than we think. And we are reminded of the greatest danger: his charisma with his base. He is colorful, excites your adrenalin, and stirs up the limbic brain. It’s hard to believe how bad he is and CNN did us a favor by exposing the raw Trump to us. Biden is a brilliant president, but he’s not exciting. Trump is a disaster, but he’s exciting. We need to be stirred up and in fighting form to make sure Trump is never president. CNN served a great purpose in rubbing our faces in the excrement that is Trump. We will fight harder now! And hopefully the prosecutors will see that they need to step up their work to get him convicted for his seditious, treasonous, criminal behavior.
CNN has set themselves up for multiple lawsuits comparable to those against FOX News and others. The Dominion lawsuit was quite costly for FOX. The Smartmatic lawsuit against FOX is underway. New defamation cases could be brought up by E. Jean Carroll, Speaker Emeritus Pelosi, and others. Did he defame Liz Cheney? And surely Jack Smith was taking notes.
CNN’s platform for lies, defamation, and anti-democracy fulminations by a debased and dangerous man is unconscionable. But I guess conscience is in short supply in Trump’s America. I will be boycotting both the man and the network.
From Axios: "On Thursday morning’s call, Licht noted that “while it might’ve been uncomfortable to hear people clapping in response to some of the president’s answers, that audience represents the views of a large swath of America. The mistake the media made in the past is ignoring that they exist.” He added, “Just as you cannot ignore that President Trump exists. The idea of doing so is [an] overcorrection of a time when nets took campaign rallies live.”
So there you have it. A major network lets Hitler hold a rally on TV because he exists. This is analogous to allowing poison from some factory escape into the air and doing nothing about it because, well, it exists.
Who else is wondering what Mr. Colbert thinks about his old boss? Here’s hoping the writers strike gets settled soon so I can have my other source of news back.
Enjoy your weekend with your family!
It unfortunately IMO, is fundamentally impossible to refrain from using expletives when commenting on the abhorrent and morally absent state of the current state of the Republican Party.
It is well past the time to stop criticizing Malone’s CNN and Murdoch’s Fox for being bad news channels and recognize that they want TFG to win and are using their channels to try to make it happen.
CNN did not make a mistake in judgment. They (the owners) knew exactly what they were doing. They are aiding the enemy of democracy intentionally because this victory is what they want. and my guess is they are very
You are so right, Robert! For months now I have left the room when my husband turns on CNN. We did not watch the “town hall”. I’m still trying to word my letter to CNN to express my disappointment and displeasure at their decision.
Thank you for the reading recommendations!